Here is a discussion that covers a variety of topics.
I find it to be fascinating. It goes well with a drink in the evening when nothing is on the boob tube.
McGovern is a good conversationalist. He is the kind of guy you might like to have a cup of coffee or a beer with, and just talk— even if he was not a very knowledgeable former insider. He and his partner at VIPS, Bill Binney, tend to piss a lot of people off, because they are willing to give voice to unpopular opinions, to it like it is, and back it up with reasoning and facts.. It is a dangerous habit in a time of general deceit. After all, we kill the prophets, and stone those messengers sent to warn us.
Raymond McGovern (born August 25, 1939) is a former CIA officer turned political activist. McGovern was a CIA analyst from 1963 to 1990, and in the 1980s chaired National Intelligence Estimates and prepared the President's Daily Brief. He received the Intelligence Commendation Medal at his retirement, returning it in 2006 to protest the CIA's involvement in torture. McGovern's post-retirement work includes commenting on intelligence issues and in 2003 co-founding Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS).
